TMG icons, continued

[chanaleh]

Finished up the Margaret Ghost 2010 icon set I started last week. Enjoy!

Emerson	Emerson	Margaret	Margaret	Margaret	Mazzini
Greeley	Greeley	James	James	Nathaniel	Nathaniel

... Oh yeah, and it occurs to me I'd meant to do one more for Sophia:
BORE WITH A HEART OF GOLD

Comments

[heliopsis.livejournal.com]

Gorgeous! Thank you for doing this. I love the maroon you chose for Emerson. Such creative work lights up the soul.

[desireearmfeldt]

The pedant in me cannot help but ask what your algorithm was for assigning first names vs. last names. :)

[chanaleh.livejournal.com]

Funny, I hadn't really considered the distinction very hard. :-) I think of all the women by their first names, clearly...

I was going to say "it's what lillibet calls them in notes", but that's not true, she only lastnames Mazzini and Ossoli; everyone else is firstnamed, even Horace, who I think never gets addressed by his first name in the play at all! whereas Emerson is almost invariably firstnamed by you, lastnamed by Greeley (which incidentally is the scene I hear the most of), and not addressed at all by anyone else. ;-) James gets called James by pretty much everyone. And Nathaniel I actually think of as Hawthorne, internally, but realized it was technically ambiguous in terms of labeling the pictures. :-)

P.S. Of all the icons, yours are the ones where I'm still not convinced about the best fit between lines and (available) pictures. If you have better ideas, let me know!

[firstfrost.livejournal.com]

Emerson, Hawthorne, and Greeley are the people that are thought of by their last name in real life, also[*]. (Well, maybe Greeley is "Horace Greeley".) Nobody would say "I've been reading that book by Ralph".

* Where by "real life" I must also include that I am sure that that guy everyone else calls John is named Emerson, but then, I think the guy you have labeled James is really named Elephant, so I am not to be considered authoritative. :)

[desireearmfeldt]

(In the script, Emerson is "Waldo." :) )

[firstfrost.livejournal.com]

I have to imagine that if I said "I've been reading that book by Waldo" people would think I meant Where's Waldo, and would also think I was deeply confused about character versus author.

[desireearmfeldt]

The convention in the script is a bit bizarre. Everyone is firstnamed, except Mazzini and Ossoli (I believe Greeley is firstnamed; I know everyone else is). And I believe lillibet uses that convention most of the time, though not absolutely consistently. The rest of us, in speech, tend to lastname everyone but James and the women.

The characters tend to use the convention of men lastnaming each other (with prefix if they don't know each other well/are being formal, without prefix if they're being less formal), and men and women lastnaming each other (with prefix) unless they're quite intimate. The women firstname each other because they all happen to be intimate. But then, there's either sloppiness or Deeply Significant Name Useage about Margaret -- many people firstname her (but then, most of the characters are intimate with her), while Hawthorne can't make up his mind.

By the conventions of the time, I believe, "Hawthorne" would be unambiguous, because you wouldn't refer to a woman by last name without suffix. But from our perspective, you're right, it is (or at least, ought to be) ambiguous whether "Hawthorne" means S or N.

[desireearmfeldt]

I agree with you that the texts for the Margaret icons don't obviously fit with those particular poses. (Haven't had cycles to think about other quotes.)

What would happen if you rotated the text of the Margaret icons one icon to the left? (i.e. so legs-->patronize, nil-->legs, patronize-->nil)